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Post by Commissioner Erick on Dec 6, 2017 20:01:03 GMT -5
Hey everybody, I want to see what people want from the draft and how we can fix this. Right now, we have it set where the top 14 teams are put into a lottery for every spot. The odds used are via the NBA's draft. However, due to unsigned draft picks, there also could be extra teams that normally would have high picks and need to be sorted out.
I like lotteries and also lotteries where every spot is up for grabs due to an intrinsic love of a little bit of chaos. It prevents plans of teams going all out to the bottom because they know they would get great odds for X pick, and a lock of X-Y picks. I chose 14 teams because the NBA has determined the math behind each pick, and it could or does coincide with top half of the league rules with compensation and other miscellaneous elements.
Right now there are arguments for:
No lottery
Smaller lottery
Lottery but not for all spots
There are also arguments for unsigned draft picks.
Are they locked?
Should they drop into a compensation round?
My suggestion is have unsigned picks from the top half of the prior year's draft drop to the first picks below the top half of the league. In other words, those picks drop to 16 and onward with everyone else dropping down.
Right now, I'm keeping the status of the 2018 draft unchanged from how we did the lottery just so teams this year know what's going on. However, all of this is in play for the 2019 draft.
If anybody has suggestions, the forum is yours.
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Post by Mike RedSox on Dec 6, 2017 21:13:06 GMT -5
I think unsigned draft picks should not be compensated with a draft pick that is 1 pick later than last years pick. I think a comp round is good. It encourages you to draft sign-able players and sign the players you drafted.
I like the draft lottery, knowing that's what we were doing encouraged me to not tank. I would be ok with switching from 14 teams to 10 or 12.
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Post by rdavispadres on Dec 7, 2017 0:41:42 GMT -5
I am fine with a lottery as long as the odds are tinkered with a bit more. Teams should be discouraged from tanking but sometimes you just have a bad team, you shouldn't be punished for that so maybe cutting down on lottery teams is the best idea. Teams sitting near .500 shouldn't have a chance to get the 1st overall pick. As for comp picks I think they should be moved to the end of the first round. When viewing the in-game draft pool a team can see how much money a prospect will want so it isn't too difficult to figure out whether or not a kid will sign with you. In summary, I'm for a smaller lottery and a comp round after the first round.
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Post by pbacards on Dec 7, 2017 11:41:51 GMT -5
Lottery for the 3 to 5 worst teams.
(Keeps things interesting and prevents teams from tanking knowing they may not get the first pick.
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If a team is unable to sign a FA in rounds 1-3, they get a Comp round pick in next years draft, only one comp pick regardless of how many FA they don't sign in that round.
Round 1, Round 1C(Comp) Round 2, Round 2C, Round 3, Round 3C
(This will prevent the issue that I had in one league of teams just not signing anyone b/c that draft class was horrible. Then in the next year draft that team had multiple picks in the first round along with every other team that did the same thing. We had upwards of 70 picks for round 1! Not having this in play hurts those of us that take gambles on players and try to develop them!)
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Post by friscoranger on Dec 7, 2017 14:40:59 GMT -5
I agree with the comp. picks being moved to end of first round but after this year because most of the teams that picks were not signed wasn't because they could afford or didnt want them but the fact that those teams weren't owned. For example the Rays and the Cubs didn't have owner during signing period so rays lost there top pick b/c they werent owned.
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Post by torontogm on Dec 8, 2017 13:41:18 GMT -5
What about determining a lottery in the same way playoffs are determined?
- Last place team in every division, plus
- next 4 lowest records, any division/sub-league
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Post by kcroyals on Dec 9, 2017 13:08:19 GMT -5
I like Aaron’s idea for the lottery.
Comp picks should be at the end of the round. If it was a lottery pick it should be added at the end of the lottery round.
Example
I have the number 4 pick. I fail to sign him rather than getting the number 4 pick next year I get the 11th pick.
If had the 14th pick and I didn’t sign him I would get the first pick in the comp rounds.
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Post by erictwins on Dec 10, 2017 15:00:35 GMT -5
Comp picks at the end of the round. Seattle's proposal for the lottery is something I like.
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Post by Commissioner Erick on Dec 10, 2017 15:33:34 GMT -5
I'm not in love with Seattle's suggestion, so I'm leaving that part open still. However, there is clearly a ton of support for a comp round. As such, for the 2019 draft, I'm making the rule that if a 1st round pick is unsigned, in the next year's draft, that team will be assigned a 1st round pick at the end of the first round, in the order of when the previous year's unsigned pick was.
For example, let's say the Padres don't sign a pick with, let's say, the 5th pick in the draft, and the Pirates don't sign a pick with the 20th. The 31st pick of the following year's draft will go to San Diego, with the 32nd going to Pittsburgh.
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Post by Ben_Dodgers on Dec 13, 2017 14:06:19 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of the lottery, but if you're set on it, my vote is to make the pool smaller. The purpose of the draft is to make bad teams more competitive - they should get earlier picks that a team that finishes at .500. I don't really see tanking as a big problem. Losing has costs (reduced attendance = reduced budget), and no draft pick is a guarantee, so choosing to tank is risky. Unlike basketball, the presence of one superstar on a team is not enough to turn a franchise around, and even a #1 pick is likely to spend a year or two in the minors.
I also prefer the comp round approach for unsigned picks.
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